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Post by 50DE on Feb 20, 2013 6:47:34 GMT -8
We can argue about this all day. When it's all said and done, the only opinion that really matters here is Joe's. [/quote] Hey what am I? Chopped liver? HAHA BTW, nothing worse then a sour grape! YUCK, wait, maybe one of those chocolate Whoppers without a center, NOW those are NASTY! Hey Joe, look someone else is fighting and I AINT INVOLVED! HAHA Just kidding guys, I do like the spunky newbie though, I say week 1 matchup needs changed to Kareem and Steve! NOW that is worth watching!
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Post by JL on Feb 20, 2013 8:03:52 GMT -8
My 2 cents on the Greenmonsters is, I don't think he should have been allowed to trade AT ALL until paid, but he has been with us for 4 years and paid, so not a real reason to doubt Well said. A lesson learned for me... In the future, I won't allow a team to participate in trading at all until payment is received. -Commish
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Post by KW on Feb 20, 2013 8:07:11 GMT -8
I love it! I have zero prob with you and Tiler making trades all you want.
My point was that if you/Tiler were to approach another team and offer a trade of picks/player that wasn't officially yours yet - I wouldn't blame that third party for looking and dealing elsewhere after realizing that 1) time passing was bringing the prices down on everything and 2) they got a better offer from somebody willing/able to execute right away.
I wouldn't put the onus on them to study the draft board or anything. A guy approaches me with a trade, I assume we're dealing in concrete goods unless I'm told otherwise.
Yes, time does matter. The earleir trades occur, the more you can get. By the last week, people are peddling keepers for 17th/18th round picks or whatever they can get. Happens every year. There's real depreciation that happens. So if a person is held up because of a transaction he didn't even know was still pending... there's a real cost from that delay.
It's all good. I'm just saying that I wouldn't hold it over somebody's head if they got/took a better deal while waiting... UNLESS they were told up front about the delay. It's not a matter of integrity or honor, in my opinion, if they look elsewhere.
Sounds like we just disagree on this one. No problem. I'm not one of the ones impacted, and I don't have an axe to grind... But i think Deathstare and Lesters should be able to trade, for example.
Since Lester is the person who got Pedroia from me... and I'm actually supporting his rights on this issue - that should let you know it's not my wanting to hate on anyone. Either way, good luck.
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Post by JL on Feb 20, 2013 8:09:43 GMT -8
I'm looking at the draft board on page 1 to make offers. I'm not going to go through all posts to figure out the "pending" transactions I agree with Kareem's comment above and understand the frustration. In the future, I won't allow a manager who hasn't paid to make trades. I was trying to offer flexibility in allowing teams to make trades while payment was still coming in... I just didn't think it would take 2 months to collect. -Commish
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Post by Top Gun Baseball on Feb 20, 2013 8:43:06 GMT -8
I love it! I have zero prob with you and Tiler making trades all you want. My point was that if you/Tiler were to approach another team and offer a trade of picks/player that wasn't officially yours yet - I wouldn't blame that third party for looking and dealing elsewhere after realizing that 1) time passing was bringing the prices down on everything and 2) they got a better offer from somebody willing/able to execute right away. I wouldn't put the onus on them to study the draft board or anything. A guy approaches me with a trade, I assume we're dealing in concrete goods unless I'm told otherwise. Yes, time does matter. The earleir trades occur, the more you can get. By the last week, people are peddling keepers for 17th/18th round picks or whatever they can get. Happens every year. There's real depreciation that happens. So if a person is held up because of a transaction he didn't even know was still pending... there's a real cost from that delay. It's all good. I'm just saying that I wouldn't hold it over somebody's head if they got/took a better deal while waiting... UNLESS they were told up front about the delay. It's not a matter of integrity or honor, in my opinion, if they look elsewhere. Sounds like we just disagree on this one. No problem. I'm not one of the ones impacted, and I don't have an axe to grind... But i think Deathstare and Lesters should be able to trade, for example. Since Lester is the person who got Pedroia from me... and I'm actually supporting his rights on this issue - that should let you know it's not my wanting to hate on anyone. Either way, good luck. The only thing not concrete about those trades is Tiler's payment. Once accepted, they are not 'optional' until such time that Tiler pays. In my mind this boils down to one simple question...is Tiler going to pay or not? Because it's a non-issue unless he does not. I believe he will, if for no other reason than you would have to be a complete (bleep) not to pay at this stage. Joe was simply affording the benefit of the doubt to a long-standing member of the league and I commend him for that. Had Tiler been a new team in the league when he approached me about Roy Halladay (Trade #1), I would have been very reluctant to trade with him until he was paid. I would have reached out to Joe to fully understand the consequences before agreeing to it.
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Post by lestersbbq on Feb 20, 2013 9:32:36 GMT -8
Just for clarification, once Deathstar and I realized that our trade couldn't go through yet, we revised it with other picks.
Only 8 more days to go until keepers are in.
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Post by greenmonsters on Feb 20, 2013 13:43:06 GMT -8
I will not make any more deals until Joe confirms my payment.
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Post by 50DE on Feb 21, 2013 4:31:38 GMT -8
HAHA force of play is strong with Steve!!! Force of his fantasy play will be weak! HAHA
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Post by byebyebalbonis on Feb 21, 2013 9:41:16 GMT -8
so much drama in the LBC
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Post by 50DE on Feb 21, 2013 11:21:08 GMT -8
It's hard being snoop double g!
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Post by JL on Feb 21, 2013 20:44:21 GMT -8
Since there's FOUR pages of posts (shows how awesome the managers in this league are) I have posted a spreadsheet of all trades line by line on the first page/post. That way it's easy to reference -Commish
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Post by lestersbbq on Feb 22, 2013 7:41:40 GMT -8
Tiler, can you confirm that you've sent a check to Joe.
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Post by Mickey's Mantles on Feb 22, 2013 9:59:19 GMT -8
Since there's FOUR pages of posts (shows how awesome the managers in this league are) I have posted a spreadsheet of all trades line by line on the first page/post. That way it's easy to reference -Commish
again freaking awesome addition joe - great work as always!
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Post by 50DE on Feb 22, 2013 13:26:02 GMT -8
[/quote] again freaking awesome addition joe - great work as always![/quote] Suck ASS!
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Post by JL on Feb 23, 2013 8:36:38 GMT -8
Tiler, can you confirm that you've sent a check to Joe. As of today Saturday 2/23 I have not received Tiler's payment yet. -Commish
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